Mel Robbins and Pilar Guzmán on the simple mindset shift that eases anxiety

It’s no secret that Mel Robbins — the author and podcast host — is having a moment. Not only is the Mel Robbins podcast incredibly popular, she also has an exciting new book The Let Them Theory And she recently joined Oprah on her new podcast to talk about how to stop wasting your precious time and energy on things that are out of your control. A few days after this conversation aired, Robbins and Oprah Daily Editorial Director Pilar Guzmán kept the conversation going by diving even deeper into this potentially life-changing philosophy.

In her book Robbins explores a simple but powerful concept: There is a certain kind of peace that comes with giving up control. By letting go of the need to dictate outcomes over which we actually have no power – be it a disappointed parent or a long line at the supermarket – we can reduce stress and disappointment. This philosophy, Robbins explains, can really change your life: “I can choose to create space for change and space for acceptance.”

Watch their full conversation here and be sure to check out Oprah’s chat with Mel here.

Sofia Lodato (she/her) is an editorial assistant at Oprah Daily. Aside from reading, writing, and wellness, she loves all things media and can often be found over-analyzing her latest favorite show, album, or video game.